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Episode 84

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Peter Feder

The Wharton School & Theta Equity

Peter Fader discusses his work on Customer Lifetime Value (CLV) and his broader fascination with using data and analytics to understand patterns in business, sports, and popular culture.

March 11, 2026 48 min 58 sec
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Episode 71

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Peter Kaufman

Gordian Group

Peter Kaufman discusses distressed M&A, the US Open, PGA/LIV tours, and Ryder Cup predictions.

June 10, 2025 59 min 15 sec

Episode 70b

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Greg Katz

New Heritage Capital

ACG DealMAX Edition: New Heritage Capital's Greg Katz steps in for Charlie Gifford.

June 5, 2025 20 min 30 sec

Episode 70a

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Graeme Frazier

GF Data

ACG DealMAX Edition: Graeme Frazier and Andy discuss GF Data and receiving the ACG Legend Award.

June 3, 2025 34 min 15 sec

Episode 69

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Christian Bullitt

Raymond James

Christian discusses private equity, investment banking, and private capital advisory, plus a short acting career.

May 21, 2025 50 min 36 sec

Episode 68

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Mark Jones

River Associates

Mark Jones, Partner at River Associates, discusses 30 years of middle-market private equity experience.

April 30, 2025 56 min 48 sec

Episode 67

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David Michel

Catapult Health

David Michel of Catapult Health discusses his entrepreneurial journey and $65M sale to Teledoc.

April 16, 2025 49 min 41 sec

Episode 66

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Barbie Adler

Selective Search

Barbie Adler, founder of luxury matchmaking firm Selective Search, discusses scaling and ownership evolution.

April 2, 2025 47 min 23 sec

Episode 65

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Ronald Miller

CIBC

CIBC's Ron Miller discusses his career and family's organ donation advocacy on Middle Market Musings.

March 18, 2025 48 min 34 sec

Episode 64

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Chris Hendriksen

Pacific Lake Capital

Chris Hendriksen, Pacific Lake Partner, discusses search funds, VRI growth, and operator to investor shift.

March 4, 2025 50 min 25 sec

Episode 63

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Steve Gurgovits

Tecum Capital

Steve Gurgovits of Tecum Capital discusses his background, banking tenure, and evolution into private equity.

February 12, 2025 47 min 55 sec

Episode 62

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Scott Estill

Lancor

Scott Estill discusses his career in investment banking, private equity, and early work with The Beastie Boys.

January 29, 2025 49 min 30 sec

Episode 61

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Randy Schwimmer

Churchill Asset Management

Randy of Churchill Asset Management discusses the evolution of non-bank financing for middle market companies.

January 7, 2025 46 min 15 sec
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Meet our hosts

Hosted by longtime friends and industry veterans Charlie Gifford of New Heritage Capital and Andy Greenberg of Greenberg Variations Capital, Middle Market Musings blends insight with humor – equal parts informative and entertaining.

While Charlie and Andy have no plans to quit their day jobs (or become media darlings), the podcast has struck a chord with listeners, lasting far longer than even they expected—and showing no signs of slowing down. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do.

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