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Episode 88 Emily Holdman, Permanent Equity

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Emily Holdman

Permanent Equity

Emily Holdman discusses the firm’s long-term investment philosophy, her journey from journalism and marketing into private equity, and how Permanent Equity’s patient capital model sets it apart in the market.

May 27, 2026 53:56
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Episode 75

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Episode 73

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Episode 72

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Episode 70b

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Episode 70a

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Episode 69

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Christian discusses private equity, investment banking, and private capital advisory, plus a short acting career.

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Episode 68

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Mark Jones

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Mark Jones, Partner at River Associates, discusses 30 years of middle-market private equity experience.

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Episode 67

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Episode 66

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Barbie Adler, founder of luxury matchmaking firm Selective Search, discusses scaling and ownership evolution.

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Episode 65

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Ronald Miller

CIBC

CIBC's Ron Miller discusses his career and family's organ donation advocacy on Middle Market Musings.

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Meet our hosts

Hosted by longtime friends and industry veterans Charlie Gifford of New Heritage Capital and Andy Greenberg of Greenberg Variations Capital, Middle Market Musings blends insight with humor – equal parts informative and entertaining.

While Charlie and Andy have no plans to quit their day jobs (or become media darlings), the podcast has struck a chord with listeners, lasting far longer than even they expected—and showing no signs of slowing down. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do.

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